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It only takes a minute to sign up. This may sound like a weird question but we are a very small company whose primary business is NOT IT related. So my IT dollars have to stretch a long way. I am in need of a good web and database server. While searching around today I found a company in ATL that buys servers off business leases and then stripes them down to parts. They clean, check and test each part and then custom "rebuild" the server based on whatever specs you request.
The interesting thing is they also provide a 3-year warranty on all their servers they sell. The price then jumps up on the next model up which is the G5 series. The facts is this series is now 3 versions behind the G7's and this series of server was built when Windows Server was the dominant OS and Windows Server was just coming out.
If you are running Windows R2 Server on a G4 with similar or less specs I would love to hear what your performance is like. A DL G4 is almost useful if you already own one. However, if you're buying today, there are plenty of other options. I'd recommend buying a modern system and virtualizing. Couple that with free VMWare ESXi and you'll be better off in terms of parts availability, warranty and a path to expansion. There are good suppliers of off-lease and refurbished HP gear. Don't go with anything less than a G5 with quad-core CPUs at this point.
And that's from a quick check on eBay. Having a couple of the G3 and the G4 servers, and all I have to add to this is the replacement parts are getting expensive.. Also when a disk broke and they will.. It held up for probably weeks then it went down again. Probably bad luck, but it could happen to you too! I can get a dl g5 with 1 QC 2. The dl g5 goes for around It will "probably" work just fine, but you will not find support from HP with Windows Server R2.
Try and work with a company that leases computing hardware, they usually sell the off lease machines cheap. The negatives on this server: x64 but not capable of virtualization i. I would not advise running R2, though. Too many limitations. Windows R2 installs on the hardware just fine, but the HP Insight management agents do not.
Despite what the guy said up there, used parts are cheap. Spareparts ARE, in my mind, more and more difficult to get hold of. We've got quite a lot of systems with 3. We have an old ML G4 with Win x It had become really sluggish and had some hardware issues dust and oxidation which, after a major cleaning session, were resolved. We added some memory, we had lying around and installed WinR2 x Now the system is running faster than ever.
VMware has improved the performance on the 4. Verify the processor can run bit OS, otherwise you'll need to fall back to bit Win not R2. I don't recall offhand if something of that age can be assumed to be x64; circa was the dawn of x64 in the Windows world. In light of your tight budget, also consider the floorspace, energy and cooling costs for the hardware.
They are too loud to sit near, they'll take a fair bit of electricity to run, and they will heat up a small room pretty well. About 10 simultaneous users in RDP. If that is enough disk space, i say go for it - save your money to buy more servers and have more redundancy. You will want to join itrc. The SmartStart 8. One downside is that WinR2 will only allow x whereas Linux sees x, so i use rdesktop on the Linux DLs to connect to the WinR2 to get x For a new purchase today - no.
These servers are five years old. Hardware attrition rates go up after four or five years. The reseller may say they have a three year warranty, but that is for drop-ship component replacement from the same surplus that they are selling off.
If you don't need a spare replacement right away and they still have it, that strategy may work. With regards to performance, the G5 was where the performance really took off.
The G4 and earlier models are underperformers. The G4 models that you see for sale are typically for organizations that already have those models, and cannot replace them at this time due to business reasons, so they purchase additional units as spares.
The only crap servers were the early s which had problems and the early G2 servers had an annoying problem with the memory riser boards. I still run one of the G4s at my desk and it is rock solid. One interesting I have found is that almost all hardware failures occur in the first 6 months.
After that there is almost never a hardware failure. I run the servers on conditioned power and reliable cooling. This seems to help reduce failures also. I honestly wouldn't pay that much for a DLG4. Don't get me wrong; That is a great server. However, you could do very well risking eBay for the chassis and spare parts.
Buy many and stock up on parts. I'd buy the disks as new as possible. With that said, you could likewise do very well buying similar G6's, which are much more performant at similar or lower power requirements.
Why run Windows on that machine? Another option you have is virtaulization proxmox may be a great option for this server of yours as a host OS. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. Ask Question. Asked 9 years, 3 months ago. Active 7 years ago. Viewed 37k times. BSchriver BSchriver 91 1 1 gold badge 1 1 silver badge 2 2 bronze badges.
That G4 is more powerful than the G5 we have running here. What more can I say, other than I'd be happy to have one. Active Oldest Votes. Niclas Lindqvist Niclas Lindqvist 1 1 silver badge 10 10 bronze badges. If you get the SAS-Model for under Hope this helps. Sathyajith Bhat 1 1 gold badge 5 5 silver badges 23 23 bronze badges.
Neil Neil 21 1 1 bronze badge. Where do you see that HP doesn't support R2? You just said that it can't do virtualisation which is correct; well, you can but you can only run bit guest OS's , but then recommend running ESXi on it?! David Graham David Graham 11 1 1 bronze badge. Marc Marc 11 1 1 bronze badge.
AndyN AndyN 1, 11 11 silver badges 13 13 bronze badges. Greg Askew Greg Askew Alan Alan 1. Do you wear earplugs at your desk? NorrComm NorrComm 1. LAMP is not automatically better or even supported in certain cases. For instance what if he needs Microsoft SQL and to host a. Net app? At that point he needs Windows.
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